Loading ...Ok folks… all who answered/commented and even those who didnt; I’ve added a final comment– that wraps my last post… feel free to check it out if you’re interested.
To skeptics, who’d say “what difference does it make ?”; I’d say it makes a lot of difference:–
- because if a individual who believes in his killer-diller crisis management skills to ultimately save the day is faced with a organization that’s judging people on planning– then there’s a chance that crisis-management and risk taking would be seen as the cause of the problem– and hence punishable– rather than a hallmark for which a person should be rewarded.
- similarly; in a scenario, where the culture of a place emphasises conformity… and no conscious top-level attempt is being made to see that people are not punished for non-conformity; then, there’s a chance that projects will suffer because people wont go the extra mile– if conforming means toeing a middle-manager’s line… and folks who do go the extra mile, might just get badly punished… and there would be no cultural reason to break from hierarchy to raise a voice…
- even more so if even HR in a company believes that someone who goes the extra mile is not being heroic but rather being a simple-ton… and not reading the writing on the wall that toeing a line gets growth… and responsibility which in term brings rewards.
In that situation going the extra mile might just be a thankless job for which a person may end up being thought of a simpleton who can be punished and used and thrown away…
Nightmare scenarios the above may sound like… but they are scenarios I have scene and even experienced… but at the same time, these are not scenarios I’d lecture ex-colleagues or ex-bosses about… and that’s the reason I touch upon some of these…
More comments and shared experiences are welcome… and yeah… I hope I’m making sense….
Also, I am happy to hear from all of you.
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Nalin,
I read your post a few times, and still cant understand what you are trying to get at. The only thing that kept bouncing back at me was the word “conformity”.
Are we discussing HR and work culture in venturewoods now? You should check the comments of your previous post. There was already a fowl cry, and for a good reason.
Just a request: Can we keep these “troll-attracting” topics out of here? I would have loved to see some stats on floating population in different cities, and maybe those numbers would have helped the readers here validate some ideas of theirs.
If possible, lets stay away from abstract thoughts floating in ether. It’s just a request.
V.
Hey Vijay,
You’re telling me what to do and what to not-do ?
Wow ! ! ! my post does bring out strong opinions– but ok; where I come from; it’s a free country and everyone is free to do and say whatever they want as long as it doesnt harm or hurt anyone.
As far as HR etc is concerned– startups are about people– and my post is about ecosystem– startups are about people– and location/culture of a locale does make a difference.
If you think my points are irrelevant– then dont comment. but just dont tell me what to do.
Thanks and Regards,
-N.S
I completely and totally disagree with this entire post. You can find toeing-the-line people everywhere and you can find beyond-the-call-of-duty people everywhere. Personal experiences are anecdotal and myopic - they have to be, to be any fun. I would stay away from regional stereotypes of people; I grew up in Delhi and don’t find it *the* place to do business (though it must be said that they know how to build houses) but obviously other people do business there and life is good for them. For each place, get a person that will get the maximum out of it. And if you’re that person, choose what works for you. To stereotype people is to simply take the conversation to a level where everyone is pointing fingers.
Nalin, valid point, but out of context. The same post within Metroblogs or so would have made for a fabulous post. Without the right context, even the best things can seem absurd. I am sure with a writing background like yours, you’d know that.
Anyways, I am out.
Thanks Deepak; and thanks Vijay for taking the time to comment.
This was just something passing through my mind for some time– and I was wondering if others too shared my strong views about how different cities make a big difference.
I guess my views on the subject are not universal truths BUT rather my own strongly held opinions.
More comments are welcome. but ok… I guess those were just my views…
Perhaps not the best topic I’ve seen on this site, but I’ve certainly seen worse :-). I think folks are getting a bit hyper-sensitive over the whole issue and are needlessly PC.
I’ve run into numerous debates (both online and offline) over the work culture/entrepreneurial ecosystem in Silicon Valley vs. Route 128 (Boston). (Having worked in both places I’d definitely say there were/are some differences). Heck, there’s been more than enough comparisons on Silicon Valley vs. Bangalore/India (including topics on risk-taking, “conformity” etc - perhaps not on this board, but i’d daresay most of us have voiced our opinion on this somewhere/someplace). So why is everyone suddenly so PC because its a question of Delhi vs. Bangalore? I think people are smart enough on the board to figure out what the stereotypes are/whether they do exist for a reason/and not to take it personally, since generalizations are frequently misleading.
Now I absolutely agree that you would find all kinds of people in every Indian city (especially with mobility being what it is today), but are there some general trends that are worth discussing - yes.
Cool scene RJ… I appreciate the frank post.
And definitely, beyond the political correctness I do believe that there are a lot of trends/patterns and regional differences– which a sophisticated group like this one can discuss– and perhaps benefit greatly by discussing.
Would love to hear more from you… or if you’ve written more elsewhere, post a link here or mail me a link.
That’s the reason I originally posted this here…
Nal in,
Sorry to be blunt but the truth is neither this nor your earlier post was really required here. It appears that the reader’s comments on first post forced you to write this one but instead of justifying past deeds, this one has actually made it even worse.
I would be very happy if you can get all the data you need which may be of great relevance to you but please, get that offline.
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Hi Sunil,
Am surprised at the passion with which you explain me the need to be quiet. appreciate your concern.
Which city are you from ? are you from the IT industry ? Any background you’d care to share ?
Just wondering…
regards,
Nalin